Ground Zero (Goaltimate) and Never Nice Guys (Ultimate) are pretty much the same team.  Ground Zero is a San Diego-based Goaltimate team; Never Nice Guys are San Diego and Los Angeles area players who compete in Ultimate tournaments as either an Open (Men's) or a Masters team.

In 2003, they came in 5th in the Open Division at the UPA Southern Calif. Sectionals tournament, 2nd in the Masters Division at the UPA Southwest Regionals tournament, and they finished 5th in the Masters division at the UPA Club Championships in Sarasota, FL.  They lost in the finals of the Division I 'B' bracket in the New Year's Fest tournament (31 Jan - 1 Feb 2004) in Tempe, AZ.

updated 5 Feb 2004